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TheGarethJones



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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Casanova's Romance Frame
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Ahhhhh, yes. Giacomo Casanova, the most famous seducer in the entire world. He’s so famous for seduction, in fact, that his name is now synonymous with the art.

But, is he really a seducer? Frankly, I hate that term because it’s very definition implies deceit. I, for one, don’t like deceiving girls into sleeping with me. I prefer showing them who I am and making connections so infallible that they then want me so badly that the only thought on their mind is sex. With me. ASAP.

But, anyhow, if you take the 2 months out of your life necessary to read the first 400 pages of A History of My Life by Giacomo Casanova, you’ll discover that he did not go into any of his first relationships with deceitful intentions. Casanova not only began his relationships under the strong grip of love, but also was nearly married several times. He loved all the women he was involved with and, frankly, THIS IS WHY I THINK HE GOT SO MUCH PUSSY.

This is DIRECTLY related to frame control, something we hear a ton about. You can say anything if it comes from a point of congruence and you have a good frame. I, more than anything, want to give off the ‘Romantic Mysterious Casanova Seducer’ vibe, but I have had extreme difficulty with it, of late. I am naturally the “Life of the Party Crazy Go-To for Adventure Guy”, which is great, but not exactly what I want to be. After (actually) reading some of Casanova’s memoirs, I’ve realized that I think it has to do with the perspective through which I’m viewing these situations. I DO fall in love with a beautiful girl when I first meet her and we have that amazing connection, and I think I need to embrace that.

Russell Brand is the first mind I think of when I think of using romantic logic to involve oneself with a woman. He is always talking about the spontaneity of life and how little time we have on the planet. He often discusses the eternal nature of romance and love and how we are restricted by social constraints from exploring it and experiencing it to the fullest degree. This is BRILLIANT and reminds me very much of when Casanova was told by his lover that once they were married, they could love each other in the most complete sense of the word (sex), and Casanova proceeds to reason that marriage is merely an expression of their eternal love and that, since they would never love another as long as they both lived, they might pledge their love at that moment, beneath the stars, and more fully embrace their love (sex). Later on, they could get married, but why delay the inevitable for the sake of formality. She, of course, agrees and they bone all night long (sex).

Though, I do have a tendency to give people the benefit of the doubt, I very sincerely believe he did love her and did believe what he was saying. This is the frame that I must adopt if I wish to become that kind of personality and I think it’s admirable to do so. What do you guys think? Anyone? Bueller?
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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:21 pm    Post subject:
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This is what comes natural to me, so I have a hard time describing it.

Essentially, what you are doing is you're bringing her deepest romantic fantasy to life. There are several aspects in making this successful and the first would be to know that you are every woman's fantasy. But here's the secret you need to always have this mindset but at first you need to have it vibing at a low frequency as it is too much for anyone to handle.

Then you'll have to make the woman emotionally aware/receptive and clearly you both have to be at the same level of emotionally aware/receptive.

Then the third part is the easiest... Once you've Isolated the target, you begin speaking with emotional intent, essentially every cheesy thing that comes out of it has an emotional intent of "Wow, you're beatiful or Wow, i find something very special in you... ecc.." and whatever you say during this time whether it be emulated bullshit you have to consider it as real, but real only in the moment of the situation.

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I very sincerely believe he did love her and did believe what he was saying.


I've been in situations where at the moment i believed what i felt hence whatever i said that came out of that feeling was real, but the feeling itself could be argued to be bullshit... I'm not sure how to explain it, but the necessities in my life brought me to learn how to feel and believe my feelings in order to lie and make it real.

All i've done was unkowingly transfer that skillset to an other area of my life. But i do believe it when I'm saying it, the only difference is that after when i look back at it i realize that i've created that feeling for a specific purpose. You can call this my coping mechanism or else I would probably go crazy! lol!

Either way I stopped using this tool as I ended up getting stalked as it's too much for ONS, you'll still get laid but the aftermath is a pain in the ass to deal with...

Hope this gave you a better understanding of what you're seeking
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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:45 am    Post subject:
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Why delay the inevitable for the sake of formality.

This perfectly describes what a woman's perspective should be before sleeping with you, especially if she has a BF or Married.

I've used concepts like these with all the women I've slept with that had fiance's or BF's. My english is not quite as elegant as that of Cassanova's, but I do try getting women to filter certain ideas to convince them that its o.k for us to have sex and she wont be seen as a slut.

I've caught myself saying things like

''life is short, you should enjoy it while you can''
''we are young, why even think about commitment yet''
''you should just do what you feel,fuck what people think''

I am not sure if that is Cassanova style or not...but what I try to
influence the girl to think is that ''its ok''...lets just be young,have fun and
be crazy...having them realize that one day we are gonna be old, so its better to live with no regrets.
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 Post Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject:
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Swagger wrote:
Why delay the inevitable for the sake of formality.

This perfectly describes what a woman's perspective should be before sleeping with you, especially if she has a BF or Married.

I've used concepts like these with all the women I've slept with that had fiance's or BF's. My english is not quite as elegant as that of Cassanova's, but I do try getting women to filter certain ideas to convince them that its o.k for us to have sex and she wont be seen as a slut.

I've caught myself saying things like

''life is short, you should enjoy it while you can''
''we are young, why even think about commitment yet''
''you should just do what you feel,fuck what people think''

I am not sure if that is Cassanova style or not...but what I try to
influence the girl to think is that ''its ok''...lets just be young,have fun and
be crazy...having them realize that one day we are gonna be old, so its better to live with no regrets.




This is absolutely right and is super important. Stressing the issue that life is short and that we are all here for our own pleasure and why should we ignore what could make us potentially very happy is a HUGE advantage. I once heard Neil Strauss talk about Russell Brand (one of my FAVORITES) and how that and bantering was really all he used to pickup.

Here's a story I tell in-set to emphasize these points. I totally stole it from The Pursuit of Happyness.

"A man was in a huge shipwreck and was left floating in the ocean all alone, uncertain of his future but he did not despair, he knew God would find a way to save him.

He floated for several hours and a boat came along, hollering down to him, the captain shouted "Ahoy there! Grab the rope!".

"No thank you," the man replied "God will save me." The ship sailed on.

Hours later, a second boat came along and the captain tried to save the man. "No, thank you! God will save me.", the man shouted again and the ship sailed on.

Days passed and the man became too exhausted to keep himself afloat and drowned. At the pearly gates he spoke to God and said "I've been such a good person and have been so devoted to you all of my life. Why could you not save me?"

God replied, "Sir, I sent you two ships."

So, what I mean is that sometimes what you need to save you is right in front of you, looking you in the eye and making you feel beautiful and like you are the only two people in the world and ... as your faces inch closer together... you know kissing him.. is the only thing that matters in the whole world....."



BAM!



Oh, btw, Casanova didn't speak English, he was Italian Wink
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 Post Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject:
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Yo dude that was fucking deep. Im so sorry but I'm going to use that little piece as one of my routines. I'm gonna e-mail that little piece to my self bro...that could really put things in perspective for a girl. The smarter she is the more she'll love it.

Italian! Got it!
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